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System Menu 4.3 update

June 24th, 2010 by bushing · 109 Comments

It’s been a quiet few months around here — Nintendo seems to have been neglecting the Wii. We expected to see a firmware update bundled with Super Mario Galaxy 2, but found no such thing — however, a few weeks later, we have ourselves a brand new 4.3 update. As usual, Nintendo describes the update as:

June 21, 2010

Wii Menu 4.3

Unauthorized Modifications


Because unauthorized channels or firmware may impair game play or the Wii console, updating to Wii Menu version 4.3 will check for and automatically remove such unauthorized files. In addition, there are some behind the scenes enhancements that do not affect any prominently-used features or menus but will improve system performance.

If you are seeing “Error:004,” please click here.

What a disappointment… this is just a rehash of, well … every update in the past 2 years, except for the 4.0 update (which actually added some features). The only thing that will drive people to install this update will be the broken Shopping channel and hypothetical future games which will come with this update on disc.

Anyway, here’s the technical changelog — much of this can be seen in the last few Wiimpersonator reports.

IOS

  • Fixes in all versions — the 2 exploits we were using in the HackMii Installer, as well as the /tmp bug that has existed forever and a half and been used by everyone else to downgrade IOS. Updated existing IOSes (9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 28, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 53, 55, 56, 57, 61)
  • Added two new IOSes — IOS80 and IOS58. IOS80 continues the trend of a new IOSx0 for each system menu, and IOS70 was stubbed out. IOS58 was previously only found on one disc, and is interesting because it contains an EHCI (USB2.0)
  • Added a stub IOS that will finally overwrite BootMii/IOS with a higher version number.

System Menu

  • Updated to block title IDs — HAXX, JODI, DISC, DISK
  • Updated to *really* block Bannerbomb – shows Error 004 now

So there’s nothing interesting at all in this update. Just the usual bugfixes. They do get credit this time to actually block exploits. The Bannerbomb block seems to be stable this time and they didn’t leave our privilege escalation exploit unfixed like in the last update.

We’re currently working on new exploits and a new release of the HackMii installer but we’ll spend some more time to obfuscate our exploits this time to make it harder for ninty to find and fix them. It might therefore take some more time until our next release.
Just don’t update – there’s nothing interesting in this update anyway.

Tags: Wii

109 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Alexander Pas // Jun 24, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Great to see you all working to improve our favorite console, don’t hurry, we expect quality just as usual.

    Great work Team!

  • 2 NotAWiiHacker // Jun 24, 2010 at 8:53 am

    Great work! Ever since I saw the message in my Wii Saying there an update, I’ve been waiting for the Write up… Thanks for the Info! Sounds like the title blocks can be easily doged byy title changes (I think). But thanks! (Im still wondering how the blocked banner bomb)

  • 3 Pajarillo // Jun 24, 2010 at 8:57 am

    good to see you back TT :D

  • 4 pentolino // Jun 24, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Thanks for the info, and let me tell you: never updated since 3.4 and recently got back to 3.2, where I plan to stay forever.
    To update we can use Dop-Mii, WiiScu, Dop-Shop and so on, everything except Nintendo software!

  • 5 Brandon // Jun 24, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Would it be possible, upon launch of the system menu to create a routine such that: construct a set of all possible title ID’s (26^4 possibilities), subtract any used title ID’s (from things like wiiware) and any title ID’s detected in Nintendo’s removal system (JODI, HAXX…), and randomly select a new ID from that set? The process will continue picking random ID’s from start up, but as long as nothing was installed prior to last set-up, you do not need to redefine a new set of the title ID pool.

    The only place that you would have to worry if someone wanted to install something and the Homebrew channel randomly has potential installed program’s ID. However, the way the system works, the next restart would have a new ID thus fixing this potential issue.

  • 6 Scaevola // Jun 24, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Too bad bannerbomb is really blocked this time. Indiana and Smash exploits still work, but few people owns Indiana Jones game and Smashstack only works on NTSC.

    I am sticking with 4.0, but I feel safer when I know the latest system menu is also homebrew enabled. We are expecting brand new exploits from you. :)

    I have two questions by the way.
    1. Do you already have some bugs in hand and use them as necessary or will you try to discover new ones?
    2. What would happen if you give a legitimate channel name to HBC?

  • 7 Hypershell // Jun 24, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    I had to laugh at the BootMii overwrite. Seeings how it has absolutely no application except for self-recovery, it’s a pretty obvious justification of the last couple posts on the state of homebrew and how console manufacturers respond. One more piece of proof to reiterate, as always, that their reactions to the “scene” are not a matter of anti-piracy but a simple matter of control.

    Take your time with obfuscation; if blocking exploits is all that Nintendo has in the works (seriously, nobody thinks that System Menu SD loads are too slow?), then we can simply be thankful for an uneventful year or two. =P

  • 8 ChuckBartowski // Jun 24, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Yeah i dont know why people are freaking out over this. If you havent updated, just dont. If you have, be patient and there will be a fix. Its a good thing they didnt try screwing with boot2 again this time though.

  • 9 Sven // Jun 24, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Broadon: Why should we do that? Nintendo will come up with a better strategy of deleting HBC then. Changing the titelid every release is a minor annoyance. Patching the System menu is something we’d like to avoid (even though we have some tool half-ready for the case that they start to actually do RSA checks)

  • 10 NotAWiiHacker // Jun 24, 2010 at 11:57 pm

    Nintendo will run around patching the holes, but there will (Hopefully) alwas be holes. Who knows what Nintedo will do next, Its us (you) against them… Hopefully theyll take a kinder look at the homebrew community and fix things that are ACCUALY wrong with the Wii. OR add features!

  • 11 someone // Jun 25, 2010 at 3:34 am

    They still don’t appear to have run a security review because there are some things they’re still doing that should have been tightened up a long time ago and are easy to fix. (And I don’t even claim to know anything about security.)

    Do we know when the IOS build timestamps were? After the privilege escalation post-mortem post or before? :)

  • 12 steffen // Jun 25, 2010 at 5:00 am

    Looks like the Riivolution team found a new IOS exploit for 4.3. Maybe they’re kind enough to share it?

  • 13 mediaphile // Jun 25, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Instead of going through holes, what would be involved in creating a legit HBC, that could be installed like the Opera browser for the Internet channel, or from a disc like the games?

  • 14 HyperHacker // Jun 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Yes, there will always be holes.

    Scaevola: Giving it an official channel’s ID would prevent that channel from being installed later, which isn’t really acceptable. Then they’d just check if the ID is present *and* it’s not their official channel.

    Maybe Smash Stack will be updated to work on other versions (I assume the same exploit exists in all of them) now that Bannerbomb is busted.

  • 15 dabockster // Jun 25, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Great post! I love when you guys make “threats” at Ninty! Makes for some excellent reading! :P

    As for 4.3, I’m still on 4.1. And I plan to stay there unless something new pops up.

    And to Nintendo, please stop running around patching exploits and trying to act like nothing is happening. Companies/organizations/people like you are slowly turning the gaming/digital media industries into Nazi Germany. Next time, when you do push an update with homebrew fixes, at least put in something new besides bugfixes. (I’m still waiting on that Hulu Channel…)

    P.S. When I logged in, WordPress told me to tell you guys to update to version 3.0. :P

  • 16 SolidMario7 // Jun 26, 2010 at 11:38 am

    Man! You guys are really on the case! Hopeful any new exploits you may make will be very common games. Great work guys, we stand behind you.

  • 17 Kolma // Jun 26, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Any hope to support a wider range of SD cards?
    my Transcend 8GB SDHC Class 6 is still unsupported.
    Don’t want to downgrade to a 2GB

  • 18 Scaevola // Jun 27, 2010 at 2:55 am

    @Kolma: I am currently using an 8 GB class 6 micro SD (Team brand) without any problems. Your problem may be related with your card.

  • 19 rooskie // Jun 27, 2010 at 8:37 am

    Thanks Twiizers!

  • 20 TreeSprite // Jun 27, 2010 at 11:16 am

    I don’t know if you are aware of this already, but I have found that since not updating to the 4.3 menu, I now cannot send mail out to persons on my friends list from withing Animal Crossing City Folk. I have also checked with Rover on the phone upstairs in my house, and the Wii Connect 24 menu option has been removed. My kids’ Wii has been updated to menu 4.3 and the menu option remains in their game. They can also send mail to other towns. Just thought you guys might like to know that Nintendo has gone to a little trouble to make sure to aggravate Animal Crossing town hackers. The sad thing is, that the only thing I do with ACToolkit and the HBC is to make it so I can play with more than one town. That’s an option they should have given the players in the first place! I’m not executing code to harm anyone else, why the hell do they need to come in and bother me? It’s bullshit.

  • 21 aliskaba // Jun 27, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Couldn’t you just give the title name a legit name of an actual game or something? So by them trying to block those title names, blocks the legit games?

  • 22 Sephiroth // Jun 27, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    @aliskaba:

    this has already been answered:

    if they’d do that, they would also prevent installing the official channel because they’d have the same channel ID.nintendo could also easily implement code that checks if the channel that uses the channel ID really is the official channel from nintendo…so in the end this would mean we have 1 official channel that can’t be installed along with the HBC and nintendo still would have their way of identifying this channel.

  • 23 Kether // Jun 27, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    @mediaphile If it was possible to create a legit way to run homebrew, it would have been done a long time ago. Simply, nintendo won’t allow it. They don’t want us to have the ability to run any software that them have not authorized first, and that’s what the HBC is for.

  • 24 launchpad.net/~tepples // Jun 28, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    WarioWare DIY Showcase is the closest thing to a “legit” homebrew channel, and it sits next to HBC on my Wii’s menu.

  • 25 icstila // Jun 29, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Anyway of creating a malformed image to load in the photo channel like on psp with tiff image exploits to crash the console….. sounds ugly but could be a successor to bannerbomb…..

    But installing HBC is the real exploit to find on
    a 4.3 virgin wii… it still makes me wonder why
    they can’t distinguish homebrew from piracy…..

  • 26 blopa // Jun 29, 2010 at 1:30 am

    And the DSi? It’ll have some hack someday?

  • 27 FGOD // Jun 29, 2010 at 9:43 am

    @Hyverhacker there is some sort of pal version of shmashstacks… used for making brawl more balanced… http://balancedbrawl.net/downloads-instructions/

    although i can’t get it too work for some reason :s

  • 28 NotAWiiHacker // Jun 29, 2010 at 11:55 am

    @blopa, There working on the DSi Just go to http://www.dsibrew.org/wiki/Main_Page for the status and updates

  • 29 KingLewy // Jun 29, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    Keep up the good work guys. Last time this happened I (very stupidly) upgraded without checking here first :( I had to wait an agonising two days without HBC before Bannerbomb was fixed.

    It sure would be nice if Nintendo would drop this silly power struggle and do something that’s beneficial to Wii users. If they’re genuinely concerned about the security of their console they would not have ignored your offer for bug info all those years ago.

    I have a question. How did Nintendo block Bannerbomb for reals this time?

  • 30 thomas83lin // Jun 29, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    @FGOD The Pal version is booted via Riivolution+Bannerbomb; unlike the ntsc version using smash stack. according to the youtube video in the link you gave.

  • 31 Hypershell // Jun 30, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    You know what really bites about the 4.3 update? Gecko OS, for reasons I have no knowledge of, requires a trucha-signed IOS for loading channels. So if Nintendo really has blocked all trucha bug restores, that means no WiiRD cheats in WiiWare games.

    Quite a shame, because otherwise, the trucha bug would mean jack to me.

  • 32 Jitz // Jul 1, 2010 at 8:57 am

    How long are we expected to wait for the new Hack?

  • 33 icstila // Jul 1, 2010 at 12:04 pm

    4.3 has been broken look here….

    http://gbatemp.net/t237997-downgrading-ios-15-on-4-3-virgin-wii

    kinda sloppy and people run their lip about exploiting the wii using KOR IOS41 to finish
    the job… but it can be done using smashstack
    or indiand pwns so good work guys always
    so ahead of Nintendo……

  • 34 kmeisthax // Jul 1, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    @icstila: Looking at this it looks like Nintendo forgot to patch IOSes… again. Someone over at BroadON/Nintendo should think about what goes in their updates before they release them. I mean, have they learned nothing from IOS16?

  • 35 google.com/profiles/jf… // Jul 3, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    I think we should have an uncensored Nintendo hatemail section so that we can express our feelings and keep our sanity

  • 36 DRayX // Jul 4, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Quick request for the inevitable Hackmii Installer and HBC update: could you possibly use the third party controller support patch from libogc r4063? It would be much appreciated. Thanks for all your hard work and I look forward to your next release.

  • 37 Daxaal // Jul 5, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Hi all. Um I am a fairly new user of homebrew and I had it for only a week. Then I got banned online and I reformatted my wii hoping to get unbanned. So I lost homebrew because my wii had updated to 4.3 and I lost all my data. So around how long does it take to make an exploit and hackmii installer? Will it take a month or 2 months or how long has it taken before? Also I hope you create a good exploit Bushing and Team Twizzers :)

  • 38 darkly77 // Jul 5, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    @FGOD: The PAL BalancedBrawl linked on that site seems to be a bannerbomb launch, not a Smash Stack launch

  • 39 google.com/accounts/o8… // Jul 5, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    “We expected to see a firmware update bundled with Super Mario Galaxy 2, but found no such thing”

    I purchased SMG2, and, all excited, took it home and put it one of my Wiis (Australian) – only to find a firmware upgrade. Having two, I happily installed (although I didn’t pay attention to which version it upgraded to – assumed it was 4.2 and was ready for an argument with Nintendo when it didn’t boot).

    Could Nintendo have delayed the Australian release to July 1st (nearly a month after the European release, more than a month after the US release) to include FW4.3 on it?

  • 40 Drag0nflamez // Jul 7, 2010 at 5:50 am

    @FGOD: it uses Twilight Hack code as seen in teh vid, so they MUST release it because the Twilight Hack is GPL’d.

    If I feel like doing it, I might buy Classic Word Games, combine the WMute exploit with Twilight Hack code so I might be able to create a NDS file booter so we can boot homebrewz in DSi mode.

  • 41 aliskaba // Jul 7, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Will Homebrew Channel cure my elbow stink?

  • 42 Muzer // Jul 8, 2010 at 5:02 am

    icstila: The problem is that the photo channel will only accept JPEGs. The TIFF exploit works because TIFF files can store a surprisingly large amount of information about an image compared to any other format in a way that is relatively easy to produce a buffer overflow for. JPEGs are not like this, so cannot easily be exploited.

  • 43 JohnA // Jul 8, 2010 at 10:33 am

    Dear Bushing and all others working hard to find exploits for the Wii!

    I’m a mere end user greatly appreciating your efforts and contributions towards letting people like me gain full access to the Wii hardware. I would just like to thank you for this and tell you that I, among many others, eagerly anticipate the next release of the HackMii installer (4.3-compatible) which yet again will let us install our favourite “home brewed” software on our consoles. I will continue to check this web site every day for an update! Thank you very much and keep up the good work!

  • 44 bushing // Jul 9, 2010 at 7:09 am

    Jitz: As long as it takes? Better yet, come up with your hack.

  • 45 rickwii // Jul 9, 2010 at 10:18 am

    why dont you guys anser my questions? I just ask for a response. Will ther be a gameless exploit? Or will there be a bannerbomb v3?
    If you dont want to say it just email it to:
    rick_kieper@hotmail.com

  • 46 Ian // Jul 9, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    please hackmii crew, keep working nonstop to find out a way to install bannerbomb on 4.3!!
    i updated my wii on tuesday, i didn’t know it would lose the homebrew channel. i just got the message from nintendo afterwards. because it was the first time i was online on my wii. i know, it’s my fault for being a newbie, but i’m sure that there’s a lot of people in the same situation!
    i’m checking this site everyday hoping to see good news about it, but seems like it’s really hard to find a way to fix it, right?
    but plz keep trying. i know you guys can fix it!
    you guys have found a fix for installing bannerbomb on 4.2 like 2 days after it was released. and it’s been like 20 days since the 4.3 exists.. im really worried.
    :(
    thanks

  • 47 Jehanne // Jul 10, 2010 at 7:54 am

    Bushing, Jitz’s question is completely legitimate, and your response, sarcastic, at best. Of course, Jitz could NOT come-up with his/her own hack. If she could, then she would not be asking the question in the first place! I am a professional software developer, and with time and patience, I probably could find my own hack, but there’s a learning curve involved with this, and a very big one at that! And I simply do not have the time (with 5 kids) to go through that. So, as an end-user, I also await the next update, knowing that one of my children will, inevitably, hit the button to update to 4.3. As one of the software developer’s, you (and your associates) have some ethical obligations to us, your end users. I have my own personal project (available here: http://doom3.filefront.com/file/Super_Allies;113989), which I do my best to support. It takes a lot of time, I know, and even though I have not earned a dime from my personal project (unlike my day job), I care about my end-users’ experiences with my software.

  • 48 Arikado // Jul 10, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Jehanne, you don’t need to attempt to discourage your intelligence level anymore by showing an unimpressive, unoriginal, trivial modification to existing software. We already know you’re a complete imbecile as evidenced by your negligence to password protect your Wii from your children and your further negligence (along with Jitz) to acknowledge the existing methodology of running homebrew software on 4.3 Wii’s (Indiana Pwns).

  • 49 The Spoony Hou // Jul 10, 2010 at 10:47 am

    @Jehanne: I know you’re anxiously awaiting for an update of the channel, and that Bushing made the standart smartass child response, but I don’t think you can say that he has ethical obligations to us. Well, I can see why you’d think so, but if he doesn’t see it that way, he can just say he has none.

    Also, his response probably indicates that he is feeling too pressured by this, so your further pressing wouldn’t do any good.

    @Arikado: No need for name calling, she is just complaing about his atitude. And let she work for her interests.

    Sorry for my English if anything sounds weird :x.

  • 50 Jehanne // Jul 10, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    I do not believe that the Wii System Update feature can be protected by a password. (If I am wrong, please correct me with a link!) As for my development skills, I do not care. I get a check, and that is what matters most to me, not unpaid development “opportunities,” original or otherwise. As for my modifications to Doom 3, I have enjoyed them, as have my kids, and a few others. Has it been worth it? Yes, but barely. Most Homebrew software that I have encountered is substandard, a fact noted quite by accident one day by my wife! I would certainly never pay for anything that I use on Homebrew.

  • 51 caitsith2 // Jul 10, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    @Jehanne: Yes, system update can be protected. Turn on your parental controls. The things protected by even the least restrictive parental control settings, is Internet settings, country setting, system update, and format system.

    Of course, I am not sure if this stops system update by game discs.

  • 52 Jehanne // Jul 10, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Thanks for the information!! You are correct. I had set parental controls (a few years ago) on my Wii, but had forgotten that they were in place! In any case, one less thing to worry about.

  • 53 Phredreeke // Jul 11, 2010 at 5:14 am

    Bushing has no obligations to any of us.

    Team Twiizers is not gonna rush a hack just because some people updated without thinking.

  • 54 MaDDe // Jul 11, 2010 at 5:40 am

    some people just buy the wii in the last day and had no options about thinking :)

    hope update will come soon :)

  • 55 haxmii // Jul 11, 2010 at 7:19 am

    Wow, I never realised how small minded and immature the home brew scene actually was until I started reading comments in these threads.

    Quite frankly, I won’t be re-installing the Homebrew Channel or the like because I simply couldn’t trust the mental attitude of people who come across as nothing more than the usual run-of-the-mill script kiddies.

    Certainly you guys seem to feel like the whole world owes you everything when in fact you’ve effectively opened the door to little else than piracy and worthless software that poses security and stability risks above the rather substandard level of design evident in most home brew.

    I wish you all the best but you’ve lost a supporter for good.

  • 56 Jehanne // Jul 11, 2010 at 9:07 am

    This is where I disagree. If you are going to release software, even if it is freeware, then you are obligated to support it, and with that support should come great customer service, which means treating your end-users with the utmost respect that they deserve. Granted, this is my opinion, but as far as I can tell, it is the standard within the software industry, even for free software. Otherwise, at least state that fact up front, and I, for one, won’t bother downloading your stuff in the first place. For me, Homebrew has been a mixed-bag. Some programs are nicely done and are well-supported. Others crash constantly.

  • 57 bezem // Jul 11, 2010 at 10:00 am

    @Jehanne: I made a login just to respond to this note, because though it is your opinion, it is blatantly misinformed. For one, Team Twiizers has no obligation to you or anyone else. If they decide tomorrow the Homebrew Channel is too much effort because users like you expect too much, that is their right. It is the standard within the software industry that freeware is available/updated when the author feels, if the author feels, and support is understood to be a ‘get what you paid for’ scenario. In other words, as much as we all want a Homebrew Channel update for 4.3, why would Team Twiizers waste a good exploit to fix essentailly a non-issue? If a game comes out that requires 4.3 then it’s less of a waste, but as of noew 4.2 is perfectly usable and acceptable. I ask that, for the sake of us patient and appreciative homebrew users, you avoid words such as ‘obligated.’ In my experience freeware software developers hate that word.

  • 58 Sephiroth // Jul 11, 2010 at 10:01 am

    @Jehanne:

    this may be your opinion but to me it just doesn’t make any sense…bushing and his team are just normal people who use their SPARE TIME to write hacks for the wii…they want to contribute to the homebrew scene because they like the platform. but that doesn’t mean that they’re in any way obligated to support the end user.as bushing stated earlier: if you want a new hack so badly then why don’t you just code it yourself? you said you didn’t have the time for that and I’m pretty sure bushing is having a hard time finding any room to develop a new hack…so please stop being so rude, especially when you clearly know how much time and effort these hacks cost.

    => be patient,don’t update your system and eventually we will have a new hackmii installer ^^

  • 59 winmaster // Jul 11, 2010 at 10:05 am

    @Jehanne

    There is a reason its called “homebrew” and not “corporatebrew.” The developers here make this software during their free time, and get nothing in return. They’ve also probably bricked many of their own Wiis, and have not been compensated for this loss. They release this software only because they feel like it, and can choose not to at any time. They have no obligation to you, me, or anyone else. You didn’t pay for it (hopefully), and nobody ever said that updates would be pushed as soon as they were needed.

    If all developers of free software were held to the same standards of support and big software companies, then there would be much less free software. Too many good projects have been abandoned because the developers were sick of listening to people bitch about its imperfections.

    Like the HackMii Installer message log says, if you have a problem with the current version, then suck it.

  • 60 mrdefender // Jul 11, 2010 at 10:12 am

    I’m just curious as to how long these things take.

    Like I said in a previous post (that seems to have disappeared for some reason lol) that I got the cheats to work fine with 4.3. Just looking forward to a more… convenient way of using homebrew :)

    Is this a extensive process? did they already find a way to do it? are they dotting the i’s and crossing their t’s? lol. Just curious myself tbh…

  • 61 Jehanne // Jul 11, 2010 at 10:33 am

    To each his/her own.

    As both a professional and freeware software developer myself, I want my company (former) and end-users (latter) to get the most out of my system (former) and software (latter.) Perhaps other freeware developers do not feel such an obligation, I do.

    I have followed this forum for over a year now (the time that I have had Homebrew on my 2 Wiis.) I found that there has been a lot of unnecessarily negativity, towards Nintendo and end-users. If Team Twiizers does not want to support their stuff, are too busy, or just want to give-up, that is fine with me. I can live without Homebrew. Perhaps someone else will pick-up the work, perhaps not.

    In any case, please do not bash Nintendo. They are, after all, the ones earning the paychecks, not you. And, don’t bash end-users. If they (we) did not exist, there would be little point to the Homebrew efforts. I, for one, would consider making a donation someday, if attitudes improve.

    But, again, to each his/her own.

  • 62 crackedthesky // Jul 11, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Jehanne, you’re not very smart, are you?
    You’re babbling on and on about Team Twiizers not supporting their software, when they are supporting it. They’re working on a new HackMii right now. Not sure how that qualifies as not supporting their software.
    I can tell by your feeble attempt at providing input, which reads more like an advertisement for your own projects, that you really have no idea what you’re talking about.
    Again, these people are doing this stuff in their free time. People who hack things, who give their time and knowledge to free up devices so they can perform functions they should be able to anyway, they don’t get paid for it. They get prosecuted. But they do it anyway, for the end users. I don’t know what better service there could be.
    Yeah, I’m waiting for the update, too. And yeah, it can be difficult to stay patient. I had Homebrew Channel over a year ago, but I deleted it because I had to send my Wii in for repairs (which I had to pay for since I was beyond warranty.) After I got it back, I had no reason to get back into Homebrew. Now, there’s a lot more available, and I definitely want to get back into it. But I had already updated before learning about things like DVDx and Riivolution, etc.
    But that doesn’t mean I’m “owed” an exact timeline. To be honest, posting the exact date the new HackMii will come out would be pretty stupid. I don’t know if you follow the iPod jailbreak community (I think some of the Homebrew community also works there, unless I’m thinking of a different Comex,) but they specifically refuse to announce when a new hack will be out. If you go out two weeks in advance and give a date, that tells Apple (or, in this case it would be Nintendo) exactly when to update to keep the new hack from ever even being usable.
    I also don’t know if you’ve checked the bootmii forums, but just about every other page is “omg what’s taking so long?” so for someone to get on here and say “how long do you expect me to wait?” is pretty insulting. These guys really don’t have to do this at all.
    And it’s especially stupid for people to complain about it when they could just as easily do about ten minutes’ worth of reading and learn that anybody can get HBC on 4.3 right now. It’s just a slightly more complicated method, but for those who absolutely can’t wait for the new Hackmii, it’s much easier to do that, rather than whine like a bunch of children about the new Hackmii not being out yet.
    Just be patient, it’ll come out when it’s ready.

  • 63 Arikado // Jul 11, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Jehanne, you really need to know when to quit. Which each post you make, you continue to dig your own grave deeper revealing an increasingly pathetic occupant to fill it. You are suggesting that Twiizers is obligated to put aside their family, their friends, their personal emergencies, and their careers to work on free, publicly available software that they earn nothing for. That type of logic can only belong to a troll. In your case, a really dedicated and really stoopid troll desperate to find a way to fix his ‘magickal homebrewz’. I will cease to acknowledge the existence of your comments and I hope everyone else will do the same so you will have nothing to respond to and finally just shut up.

  • 64 31nomekop // Jul 11, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    good to know u finding a solotion oh and hi im 31nomekop. i dont know what to do im not that smart but is there a way to change hbc format and bypass this filter thing i mean i tried something for a forum and i make copys of everything on my sd and deleted hbc for console upated and tried to reinstall and it came up with error#004
    system files are corrupted. :( oh and if you want ill try and help and if i find anything ill post asap

  • 65 delson // Jul 11, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    I recently created an account here to say this. I have been following this project for a very long time now (since its inception). The above exchange from both ends was hardly necessary. Free software is usually described as software which is provided AS IS and WITHOUT WARRANTY (common phrases found in caps on many freeware license agreements). Yes, in most cases authors decide to support the software they create. However, an author of free software that is not under a contact of any kind may do as he wishes with that software. To put it into perspective, Team Twiizers could decide next week to charge money for all support and future updates to the Homebrew Channel, Bootmii, etc. That is within their right as owners of the software created, as is their right to decide when to fix bugs and/or provide news on this blog.

    In any event, the amount of time that has went into this project is immense. Fights like the above are a slap in the face to the developers of HBC & related exploits. Instead of bickering, the more logical decision would be to simply thank the team for their hard work and continued dedication to thwart and circumvent Nintendo’s blocks against homebrew.

  • 66 mtu // Jul 12, 2010 at 4:20 am

    One more thing to ponder here:

    Twiizers is following their “obligation” to the users by only providing software that they believe in & have tested to an extend where they are reasonably sure it’ll do more harm than good. I’d call this responsible behaviour.

    If you want to give up maintaining a free software project, you usually just do. If you are a nice person (some people are, others are just dicks) you distribute the source code of the last version released, together with the necessary documentation to get it built & running. I’d call this responsible behaviour.

    Twiizers doesn’t really have this option, as they are following a not really legally binding moral responsibility towards Nintendo – it’s entirely unlikely that releasing sourcecode holding their collected knowledge won’t do any harm to the platform as such. I’d call this responsible behaviour.

    They also have limited time at their hands – as do we all. Although – most of the time, it’s not “time” that’s the issue, but “attention”. They should spend their time and attention on things that are fun for them – if certain people on the forums and in the comments cost them grief it’s likely for them to take a break from doing anything even vaguely related to those people (even if it’s fun hacking stuff!) just to get back to a less pissed-off level. I’d call this human behaviour.

    I’m thankful for them giving me the opportunity to use hardware I bought for more things than just what Nintendo intended me to use it for. I’d call this a gift that is free, as in beer.

    You can voice your opinion all you want, it’s free, as in speech, too. But please stop pissing in my beer – and let the guys keep up the good work. At their pace. Thank you :)

    P.S: I’ll stop feeding the trolls, too, so don’t expect me to respond. yes, that means you can withhold the comment ;)

  • 67 nameless // Jul 12, 2010 at 9:09 am

    maybe bushing overreacted a bit with his answer to Jitz, maybe he had a bad day, but bushing has no obligation to code things for others at all, we must be thankful that he does

  • 68 Isakill // Jul 12, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    You know. I shouldn’t dignify this with a response, but alas I have to.
    Bushing, and the others (as stated previously) DO NOT have any type of anything resembling what you call an obligation.
    Just like you don’t have an obligation to use homebrew.
    You complain that homebrew is “substandard” you wanna know why? Because the majority of homebrew programmers are making their first code FOR homebrew.
    So, I guess my advice for ya is, if you don’t like it, go away.

  • 69 MatisyahuSerious // Jul 12, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    “.And, don’t bash end-users. If they (we) did not exist, there would be little point to the Homebrew efforts.”

    i’m fairly sure they did all this for themselves, and we are just enjoying the benefits. although, please continue your emasculated tirade, eventually you might succeed in ruining it for the rest of us, champ.

  • 70 WiiCrazy // Jul 12, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    @Jehanne

    What TT’s doing is a lot different than what other homebrew coders out there does… They are hacking Nintendo’s software to open it up for homebrew…

    In that regard it’s much much more than just homebrew coding. In the case of Nintendo vs TT It’s more like a turn based fighting of software… With the limited holes in the Nintendo’s defence at your hand do you think you would want to show when and/or how you wanted to sneek into that defence?

    That’s how it differs from plain homebrew software. It’s delicacy is not just specific to release dates / release form but of course to the development, planning and so on…

    TT’s opinion may fall outside of the spec I’ve drawn above, still they have the full rights to deny anyone’s pushing them to a release. They have already said that it will take longer this time and recommended not to update.

  • 71 Lubricious // Jul 13, 2010 at 7:36 am

    I am so pissed of at myself. I updated my wii before I found out about homebrew.

    Is there an alternative for Hackmii installer?

  • 72 KingLewy // Jul 13, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Just take your time TT.

    I look forward to your next release and would never expect you to sacrifice quality or security for anything.

    Keep up the good work and, even more so, your blog, as I love to read about what you’ve learnt about the Wii, regardless of how much of it goes over my head.

  • 73 Brandon // Jul 13, 2010 at 10:53 am

    Not to mention that coding is supposed to be a hobby. I’ve done things purely for fun whether someone else utilizes what I created or not.

    With TT’s software being the most popular and easiest methods for launching homebrew for the wii, they have most likely received a lot of negative feedback from Nintendo and worse, the people who utilize their software. What was probably fun before (given that they found an exploit that created a large part of what homebrew is today) is slowly transitioning to a war with Nintendo and the homebrew community.

    Because of this, development on the homebrew channel may be less fun than it was before especially since Nintendo will most likely retaliate on it. If you have followed Hackmii’s blog, you will notice the attempt to create a mutual agreement between Nintendo and TT has failed and, worse, end up leading to personal attacks. This leads to the conclusion that TT is slowly losing interest on homebrew channel development and they don’t want to have this never ending battle with Nintendo to create exploits only for it to get patched up.

    It would be like cutting grass. Why grow grass if you know it’s only going to be cut again? If TT can formulate a grass that never needs to be cut, then they can truly admire, and best of all, enjoy their time on the wii scene without all of the back and forth bickering between the many parties. However, formulating grass that never needs to be cut is venturing into new horizons never reached before and thus the probability in a large amount of time to figure it out is relatively high compared to the probability in seeing a quick solution.

    In the mean time, homebrew channel 1.0.6 is a perfect solution to people who don’t update or people who have successfully reverted from the update’s measurements to attack the homebrew channel (which has been said a dozen number of times). System menu 4.3 offers little or no benefits which inferences into little incentive’s to complete a new homebrew channel. I have watched TT manage the wii scene from when they first released the twilight exploit (that cute little penguin) and would hate to watch them leave the wii scene because of this war going on the software scene.

    My two cents, now I’m broke

  • 74 dhewg // Jul 15, 2010 at 2:40 am

    While I agree with some statements made in the comments, I disagree with others.
    We do want to support our software. Just because we didn’t release a new version yet doesn’t mean there is none in the works.

    We want to make our installer compatible with as many Wiis as possible, and that alone involves alot of work and testing.
    Example: We rely on IOS hacks to get HBC on your Wii. There’re alot of IOS version out there, and every version has multiple revisions. And don’t forget about multiple regions, where one doesn’t have the same IOS set available as another. That’s a shitload of combinations we have to support, so I hope you all understand what pain in the ass it is sometimes to cook a release that just works ™ for everyone. But we try ;)

    About release timing:
    As with the System menu 4.2 update, 4.3 didn’t bring any new features.
    You do not have to update.
    You know that 4.3 will remove the current HBC version.
    If you update 4.3, its not our fault that you don’t have a working HBC.
    You do not have to update.

    With that in mind, we used the opportunity to implement some new features instead of releasing immediately. There’s already a fully working installer compatible with 4.3 on all regions. Actually, it works on more Wiis compared to our last release. Some bits are still missing, but we’re slowly getting there.

    Give us a little more time for a public release, we can only work on it in our spare time. Just don’t expect us to stop making fun of Ninty, we’re just here for the lulz.

  • 75 DRayX // Jul 15, 2010 at 6:36 am

    Thanks for the update dhewg, it good to hear that progress is being made.

  • 76 mrdefender // Jul 15, 2010 at 6:55 am

    already? wow! You guys are great :) Looking forward to using it :)

  • 77 fogbank // Jul 15, 2010 at 10:09 am

    @bushing et al… Now that it has been patched is there any chance we will see a write-up on the Userland+Syscall exploit that was previously used to install HBC? I think it would be an interesting read :)

  • 78 Brandon // Jul 15, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Wouldn’t it be a sick world for Nintendo to release 4.3 just to see a new version of the homebrew channel with new features :) They just needed to create 4.3 to push motivation =P

  • 79 mwasleski // Jul 15, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Thanks for the update. Those of us who failed to take the necessary steps to keep family members from updating to 4.3 are grateful for your efforts to get a new release out. We all look forward to the new features you are implementing. As for me, I’m just looking forward to having HBC back on my system menu. :) Thank you for your efforts.

  • 80 bananaphone // Jul 15, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    yeah, thx for the update…hope the progress is running quick^^
    maybe ninty also wanted an update for the hbc x)

  • 81 mrdefender // Jul 17, 2010 at 9:42 am

    Maybe Nintendo wants HBC to be released quicker/at all so they don’t have to bother trying to figgure out what needs to be fixed? They figgure “let someone else do the work and we’ll just do it later”

  • 82 Ian // Jul 18, 2010 at 1:47 am

    First of all, sorry for my bad english. i’ll try my best so you guys can understand me..
    I apologize for my previous comment, when i said something like “please realease a new exploit ASAP, cuz i have upadated my wii accidentally”
    now, after reading some comments, i recognize that i was rude and that you guys owe nothing to me, and that i should just wait. .
    it’s my problem that i did the update, and i’m really sad for not having the homebrew channel anymore, but it’s ok.. i will keep waiting with patience :)
    i know you guys are trying your best, and yeah, i would be really happy to see a bannerbomb V3 , or something ASAP. cuz i can’t wait to play my wii again.. hahha

    im just sorry for being rude.. :)
    keep doing this great thing for us, wii players and lovers, since nintendo was really mean and unfair for releasing that f*ckin update, which didn’t improve the wii performance, but only deleted the thing we loved the most on our wii!
    i’m pretty sure that 99% of the people who installs HBC, are just like me..
    the main reason for someone install the homebrew channel is to enjoy 100% of what the wii can offer.. like playing DVDs, region free, etc etc..
    homebrew is not about piracy!

    it’s really ironic that ninty says that removing the homebrew channel will increase system performance, when actually it decreases!
    cuz the wii can do less things without the homebrew channel..
    nintendo is acting like facists doing that..
    we already spent our moneys buying the wii console, so we should have the freedom to do what we want with it!
    blocking the homebrew channel, is not the solution to anything.
    and again, we are free people who worked a lot to buy a wii , and again, we should be able to do what we want with it..
    that’s my opinion about this whole thing.. sorry for writing it here.

    i’m really disappointed at nintendo after 21th of june. and the 4.3 update, just made me love even more the homebrew channel, cuz i see how shi*ty the wii is without it..

    well, now i’m going to watch a youtube video that will take ages to load on wii’s internet channel, and then create a new mii on the miichannel.
    thanks nintendo! wii is a very entertaining video game witthout the homebrew channel.
    (btw i do have a lot of original games, but i have finished them all)

    now, seriously..
    thanks a lot homebrew developers.. you guys rock!
    and my wii sucks without you.. i hope not for long time..
    have a nice day

    tschüß
    :)

  • 83 Ian // Jul 18, 2010 at 1:56 am

    oh, and btw, thanks dhewg!
    i loved what you wrote.
    i’m happier now that i know that the progress is going well.
    and yeah, i agree.. people shouldn’t update when they have the knowledge that it will delete homebrew channel..
    i’m here just to represent the people who updated without knowing the consequences , or newbies..
    there’s a lot of people who did that..
    the words “bannerbomb on 4.3″ is like a trending topic on google now

    :)

  • 84 openidfrance.fr/vinnzen // Jul 18, 2010 at 2:44 am

    Yeah. Thanks a lot for the good work. and can’t wait fot the TT update!
    u’r doing a great job !
    “bravo” !!! :)

    Btw I was wondering how do you find an exploit on the wii… if i can’t be of any help !
    You look at a save game stored on a SD card in a hex text editor ???
    You desassemble a game or part of the wii and try to find a buffer over flow ???

    A bientôt ! :)

  • 85 ketufe // Jul 18, 2010 at 8:03 am

    @Jehanne
    With everything you say, I wonder what you do on HACKMII ?

    @Team Twiizers
    Super take your time to have a good job once again

  • 86 rafao // Jul 18, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Thanks for update…

  • 87 omgjoz.myopenid.com/ // Jul 19, 2010 at 11:20 am

    I might break up with my girlfriend for updating my wii. Stupid whore…

  • 88 KingLewy // Jul 21, 2010 at 6:22 am

    @ omgjoz.myopenid.com
    That’s a good reason if I ever saw one. I think I might need a new girlfriend. She won’t let me put HBC on her Wii…

  • 89 Phelps // Jul 21, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    @dhewg
    Thanks for the update. Good to know you’re progressing with the new version.

  • 90 mtu // Jul 22, 2010 at 3:55 am

    @KindLewy: just hide it on the last page of the system menu and only activate bootmii on your own SDs ;)

  • 91 KingLewy // Jul 22, 2010 at 4:34 am

    @mtu
    Haha. That’s a good idea. Better still, install HBC and move that to SD as well :D She need never know…

  • 92 donnej // Jul 22, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Just wondering, is it possible to use Lego Indiana Jones 2? It’s almost impossible to get Lego Indiana Jones 1. And Hopefuly the 4.3E Hackmii Installer will be able for use without having to use the Indiana PWNS exploit. Is there any information about that so far?

  • 93 Phredreeke // Jul 22, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    AFAIK you can’t run the HBC from SD card (you can’t move it back to the NAND once you copy it to the card, and when running channels from SD card the system menu copies it back to NAND before launching)

  • 94 aaron44126 // Jul 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    That’s right… The Wii checks the digital signature of a channel when it’s copied from the SD card onto the system. That includes copying it just to “launch” it off the SD card. The HBC will fail the digital signature check and give an error.

  • 95 Pajarillo // Jul 22, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    so good to know that the new HBC is on its way, with new features!! thank you guys :)

  • 96 YABBA DABBA DOO // Jul 22, 2010 at 10:22 pm

    well one moth so far and still nothing, I know you guys do this only for the love to the game, but after all this waiting looks like jehanne wasnt that wrong after all, anyways thanx for all you do

  • 97 pepin // Jul 23, 2010 at 4:27 am

    Could somenone tell us a aproximty date for the launch of the new HBC.?

    Thanks for your job and the new features to all the team.

    Regards and sorry for my poor english.

  • 98 EF // Jul 23, 2010 at 8:49 am

    After my old Wii died I got I got a new one a week ago and it came with latest 4.3U menu version pre-installed :(

    I’m really waiting for an fix to be able to install Homebrew on it…. Thanks for your work !!!

  • 99 dhewg // Jul 24, 2010 at 7:54 am

    @yabba
    Is that really necessary? If you are willing to pay us full-time, we can manage a release within a couple of days. If not, you have to be a little bit more patient.
    We have a huge user base. That’s a big responsibility, which implies we do lots of testing to ensure that we don’t harm anyone’s Wii.

  • 100 YABBA DABBA DOO // Jul 24, 2010 at 11:41 am

    @dhewg Thats what you get for make us depend that much on you guys :) I know what you meant, just dont forget us, Meanwhile I will take my lexotanil just to make the wait a little easier lol

  • 101 rafao // Jul 24, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    @yabba
    Just wait more time for guys to work or execute the Smash Stack/Indiana Pwns exploit to downgrade your wii.

  • 102 KingLewy // Jul 25, 2010 at 8:57 am

    @Phredreeke & aaron44126
    Oh yeah, that’s right. Cheers for reminding me of that. Oh well. It’s not like I was seriously going to soft hack someone else’s Wii without them knowing anyway. lol. I haven’t upgraded so I still have HBC, so I’m fine. But still looking forward to new features nonetheless.

  • 103 KingLewy // Jul 25, 2010 at 8:58 am

    *soft mod someone else’s Wii*

  • 104 Toyoke // Aug 6, 2010 at 9:19 am

    Any more news about the 4.3?
    I just found out about homebrew , longing to install it , i saw my wii updated… DAMN!!!!!!!!!
    So , i real look forward to have a version that works on 4.3 , so happy i found this blog , now i know the problem for the error isnt me…

  • 105 jfm meyers // Aug 9, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    I really wish I could find the donate botton if there is one I would donate 10 cents of the 80 I have left on my chase giftcard that I linked to my paypal account. I started with 80 dollars xD I bought a lot of iPhone homebrew basicly XD.

  • 106 jfm meyers // Aug 9, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    after reading alot of comments I am so happy that may never find the need for a girl freind even thought I am in high school XD

  • 107 jfm meyers // Aug 10, 2010 at 12:05 am

    I am happy I broke my 2nd wii by deleting the ios 60 so I could go back to my first one witch I accidently changed to pal during a failed irational downgrade attempt I enjoyed fixing it and getting a wii I have a reason to open and take a few pictures since I have an unsatisfied want to just open a game console and look inside for a bit.

  • 108 The USB2 Release // Aug 14, 2010 at 7:55 am

    [...] a new IOS version: 58, and this is the first with an official USB2 module. Starting with the System Menu 4.3 update, IOS58 is available to every [...]

  • 109 google.com/profiles/gr… // Aug 14, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    tnx

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