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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-6031</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok check this out. I had Homebrew installed and the kids got NEW SUPER MARIO BROS  for christmas, so I uninstalled Homebrew. Worried about bricking.  Everything was good. Then we rented SUPER SMASH BRO BRAWL and after a few times of playing even after updating to 4.1 the wii would say &quot;unable to read disk&quot; . So ifound on the Wii site that if you had an issue palying this game to send in for fix. Now i just received and E-Mail form nintendo saying the Wii was tampered with by installing Homebrew and would not fix and recommened  to replace. What can I do? I have yet to receive the Wii back from nintendo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok check this out. I had Homebrew installed and the kids got NEW SUPER MARIO BROS  for christmas, so I uninstalled Homebrew. Worried about bricking.  Everything was good. Then we rented SUPER SMASH BRO BRAWL and after a few times of playing even after updating to 4.1 the wii would say &#8220;unable to read disk&#8221; . So ifound on the Wii site that if you had an issue palying this game to send in for fix. Now i just received and E-Mail form nintendo saying the Wii was tampered with by installing Homebrew and would not fix and recommened  to replace. What can I do? I have yet to receive the Wii back from nintendo?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5851</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bushing... could you do me a favor and answer what exactly the major problem with the &quot;stubbing&quot; of IOS&#039; really is? I fear that I don&#039;t grasp the meaning of stubbing in this sense, nor the reason why one just can&#039;t &quot;reinstall&quot; say IOS 249 for instance. 

Thanks for any response (unless you say I&#039;m dumb. I wouldn&#039;t appreciate that much). You&#039;re helping the community greatly imho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bushing&#8230; could you do me a favor and answer what exactly the major problem with the &#8220;stubbing&#8221; of IOS&#8217; really is? I fear that I don&#8217;t grasp the meaning of stubbing in this sense, nor the reason why one just can&#8217;t &#8220;reinstall&#8221; say IOS 249 for instance. </p>
<p>Thanks for any response (unless you say I&#8217;m dumb. I wouldn&#8217;t appreciate that much). You&#8217;re helping the community greatly imho.</p>
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		<title>By: bushing</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5796</link>
		<dc:creator>bushing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wii uses the same flash chip for everything -- all of the software, channels, savegames, etc.  The system won&#039;t even boot if you write-protect the chip, because it writes some temporary files in the process of booting.  There is no way to selectively write-protect part of the chip, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wii uses the same flash chip for everything &#8212; all of the software, channels, savegames, etc.  The system won&#8217;t even boot if you write-protect the chip, because it writes some temporary files in the process of booting.  There is no way to selectively write-protect part of the chip, either.</p>
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		<title>By: me.yahoo.com/a/v0GiNkUsu…</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5789</link>
		<dc:creator>me.yahoo.com/a/v0GiNkUsu…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, because it&#039;s on the same chip that is used for storing savegames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, because it&#8217;s on the same chip that is used for storing savegames.</p>
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		<title>By: bootlegger</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5788</link>
		<dc:creator>bootlegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just putting this out there as I have just read about it on the XBOX 360, but is there no hardware switch on the chip that holds the boot2 code that could be fitted to stop overwriting of the boot2 code in the future - would this also stop all other updates such as FW4.2 being installed or is that held on a different chip?

http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/NWP_diagram/NWP.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just putting this out there as I have just read about it on the XBOX 360, but is there no hardware switch on the chip that holds the boot2 code that could be fitted to stop overwriting of the boot2 code in the future &#8211; would this also stop all other updates such as FW4.2 being installed or is that held on a different chip?</p>
<p><a href="http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/NWP_diagram/NWP.png" rel="nofollow">http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/NWP_diagram/NWP.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: bushing</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5783</link>
		<dc:creator>bushing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a choice between three ugly solutions -- to circumvent the 003 bullshit, you can either patch the system menu, patch the system menu&#039;s IOS (70), or erase the Korean key from SEEPROM.  I have no recommendation there, all of them are sketchy.

As for my recommendations on updating -- I don&#039;t really know what to say beyond what I&#039;ve already written.  At this point, the only update that Nintendo has made in the past year that actually added functionality was the SD-card stuff in 4.0.  Other than that, you have nothing to gain from updating your Wii.

Well, there is one thing you gain -- you don&#039;t have to worry about &quot;accidentally&quot; updating or being forced to update -- at least until the next update.  There is something to be said for that, I suppose, especially if your warranty is still intact and you can return your Wii to Nintendo if it breaks.   Personally, I sat there and held my breath a little and hit &quot;Update&quot; -- then again, I sort of had to to continue working on the HackMii Installer.

Nintendo&#039;s update is probably safer for your system than any &quot;homebrew update&quot; -- which the possible exception of something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WiiSCU&lt;/a&gt; which will let you &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; install e.g. the new shop channel.   That is really the kind of thing I had in mind when releasing &lt;a href=&quot;http://hackmii.com/2008/07/patchmii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;patchmii-core&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a choice between three ugly solutions &#8212; to circumvent the 003 bullshit, you can either patch the system menu, patch the system menu&#8217;s IOS (70), or erase the Korean key from SEEPROM.  I have no recommendation there, all of them are sketchy.</p>
<p>As for my recommendations on updating &#8212; I don&#8217;t really know what to say beyond what I&#8217;ve already written.  At this point, the only update that Nintendo has made in the past year that actually added functionality was the SD-card stuff in 4.0.  Other than that, you have nothing to gain from updating your Wii.</p>
<p>Well, there is one thing you gain &#8212; you don&#8217;t have to worry about &#8220;accidentally&#8221; updating or being forced to update &#8212; at least until the next update.  There is something to be said for that, I suppose, especially if your warranty is still intact and you can return your Wii to Nintendo if it breaks.   Personally, I sat there and held my breath a little and hit &#8220;Update&#8221; &#8212; then again, I sort of had to to continue working on the HackMii Installer.</p>
<p>Nintendo&#8217;s update is probably safer for your system than any &#8220;homebrew update&#8221; &#8212; which the possible exception of something like <a href="http://wiibrew.org/wiki/WiiSCU" rel="nofollow">WiiSCU</a> which will let you <b><i>only</i></b> install e.g. the new shop channel.   That is really the kind of thing I had in mind when releasing <a href="http://hackmii.com/2008/07/patchmii/" rel="nofollow">patchmii-core</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: promoherb</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5782</link>
		<dc:creator>promoherb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SifJar
&quot;I’d say the Error 003 is more of an issue, as anyone with a region changed Korean Wii will “brick” with this. However, I believe from some research that patching IOS60v6147 to install to the IOS70 slot, then installing 4.2 will bypass the Error 003&quot;

Is this tested? You mean, installing 4.2 from Nintendo? 

Can you please give more reference on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SifJar<br />
&#8220;I’d say the Error 003 is more of an issue, as anyone with a region changed Korean Wii will “brick” with this. However, I believe from some research that patching IOS60v6147 to install to the IOS70 slot, then installing 4.2 will bypass the Error 003&#8243;</p>
<p>Is this tested? You mean, installing 4.2 from Nintendo? </p>
<p>Can you please give more reference on that?</p>
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		<title>By: tech3475</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5779</link>
		<dc:creator>tech3475</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that but its in case someone else does it without me knowing.....a precaution basically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that but its in case someone else does it without me knowing&#8230;..a precaution basically.</p>
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		<title>By: SifJar</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5778</link>
		<dc:creator>SifJar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tech3475: AnyRegion Changer will install System Menu 3.2, it will not update you. &quot;Special updaters&quot; are generally fail, as they install what there creator thinks is best. The exception is dop-IOS MOD which lets you manually update whatever you want (IOS, System Menu, Channels), patching IOS id you so desire, or not if you dont want to. 

Also, the best form of update protection is : dont click update. The Wii can not update without you pressing update. There is no real need for a preloader code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@tech3475: AnyRegion Changer will install System Menu 3.2, it will not update you. &#8220;Special updaters&#8221; are generally fail, as they install what there creator thinks is best. The exception is dop-IOS MOD which lets you manually update whatever you want (IOS, System Menu, Channels), patching IOS id you so desire, or not if you dont want to. </p>
<p>Also, the best form of update protection is : dont click update. The Wii can not update without you pressing update. There is no real need for a preloader code.</p>
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		<title>By: Shonty</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/comment-page-1/#comment-5774</link>
		<dc:creator>Shonty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember in case of the beginning of bootmii the view of an boot2 Emu. I think its time for it :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember in case of the beginning of bootmii the view of an boot2 Emu. I think its time for it <img src='http://hackmii.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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