Comments on: Nintendo WFC ban rumors http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/ Notes from inside your Wii Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:38:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: nintendude http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4764 nintendude Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:07:59 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4764 I have to agree: it's best to (at least) first play a few WFC matches of say Mario Kart the "fair and square" way first before cheating to win. After all, gaining skill in a game the normal way makes it more fun to play against others that are good like you (or suck). And to add to initrdgz's comment: I agree that games won't check to see if you have Homebrew installed on your Wii or if you're using it while online and send that info to Nintendo. Plus, I don't think that Nintendo would go out of their way to start banning cheaters left and right for cheating; they have more important things to worry about. I have to agree: it’s best to (at least) first play a few WFC matches of say Mario Kart the “fair and square” way first before cheating to win. After all, gaining skill in a game the normal way makes it more fun to play against others that are good like you (or suck).

And to add to initrdgz’s comment: I agree that games won’t check to see if you have Homebrew installed on your Wii or if you’re using it while online and send that info to Nintendo. Plus, I don’t think that Nintendo would go out of their way to start banning cheaters left and right for cheating; they have more important things to worry about.

]]> By: initrdgz http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4554 initrdgz Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:53:24 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4554 I doubt that the game was programmed to send information on all the titles the wii has over WFC. It isn't like the PSP where you can download an update that will make it check, so I don't really think that's an issue, but you never know. Newer games may. However, as you said, having the homebrew channel installed doesn't mean we are cheating. If they did start banning us for it, maybe we could sue >=) (Don't quote me on that last part. Just so _I_ don't get sued, that last part is a joke.) I doubt that the game was programmed to send information on all the titles the wii has over WFC. It isn’t like the PSP where you can download an update that will make it check, so I don’t really think that’s an issue, but you never know. Newer games may. However, as you said, having the homebrew channel installed doesn’t mean we are cheating. If they did start banning us for it, maybe we could sue >=)

(Don’t quote me on that last part. Just so _I_ don’t get sued, that last part is a joke.)

]]> By: HyperHacker http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4463 HyperHacker Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:58:55 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4463 If you want to play online with your friends, and all use the same cheats, maybe someone could hack together an alternate NWFC server to use for that purpose. If you want to play online with your friends, and all use the same cheats, maybe someone could hack together an alternate NWFC server to use for that purpose.

]]> By: Comedy http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4461 Comedy Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:34:49 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4461 Well I'm online in MKW right now. I have PAL MKW Disc on 3.2 USA Wii with a modchip, HBC is installed but I didn't use it to run the game. I would think they have something on the server side to spot unusual activity. Well I’m online in MKW right now. I have PAL MKW Disc on 3.2 USA Wii with a modchip, HBC is installed but I didn’t use it to run the game. I would think they have something on the server side to spot unusual activity.

]]> By: RobotMenace http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4460 RobotMenace Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:17:29 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4460 @sven I didn't say they could, I don't think they can, I said IF they could... And yes I agree, I think they work out server side who the cheats are @sven I didn’t say they could, I don’t think they can, I said IF they could…

And yes I agree, I think they work out server side who the cheats are

]]> By: Sven http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4459 Sven Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:58:10 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4459 cr08: Well, they could only introduce such a system to new games. They won't be able to fix older games. marcan explained this in another post a few weeks(?) ago. WiiMan : Those end-users at gbafail^H^H^H^Htemp also call themselves hackers even though all they can do is install software made by others. They probably think it's cool :-P RobotMenace : It's unlikely that they can just patch your online game to do stuff it was never designed for. They most likely just check for certain things (like if you always get blue shells) and ban you based on those facts. cr08:
Well, they could only introduce such a system to new games. They won’t be able to fix older games. marcan explained this in another post a few weeks(?) ago.

WiiMan :
Those end-users at gbafail^H^H^H^Htemp also call themselves hackers even though all they can do is install software made by others. They probably think it’s cool :-P

RobotMenace :
It’s unlikely that they can just patch your online game to do stuff it was never designed for. They most likely just check for certain things (like if you always get blue shells) and ban you based on those facts.

]]> By: RobotMenace http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4458 RobotMenace Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:35:35 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4458 I'd have thought if Nintendo could scan your NAND in on-line play they would search for cIOS installs rather than the HAXX ticket. I mean, do you really think they care more about Mplayer and FTPii or warez and cheats? I hope they are wave banning so all these idiots who are posting and following "tutorials" to install a GeckoOS wad and use AnyTitle Deleter to get rid of HBC so they can apparently cheat without fear of getting caught learn they have no one to blame but themselves. Take some responsibility for your own actions. Some of us actually like how simple WFC is, and it's encouraged us to play on-line because we can just play the game and forget about having virtual social lives to make up for our lack of a real life one. The cheats out there seem to think it's only a game so it shouldn't bother us. Well the fact that it is only a game and you feel the need to win at any expense rather than learning to loose gracefully(it is a good life lesson) and still enjoy yourself is what gets 99% of people out there angry I’d have thought if Nintendo could scan your NAND in on-line play they would search for cIOS installs rather than the HAXX ticket. I mean, do you really think they care more about Mplayer and FTPii or warez and cheats? I hope they are wave banning so all these idiots who are posting and following “tutorials” to install a GeckoOS wad and use AnyTitle Deleter to get rid of HBC so they can apparently cheat without fear of getting caught learn they have no one to blame but themselves. Take some responsibility for your own actions. Some of us actually like how simple WFC is, and it’s encouraged us to play on-line because we can just play the game and forget about having virtual social lives to make up for our lack of a real life one. The cheats out there seem to think it’s only a game so it shouldn’t bother us. Well the fact that it is only a game and you feel the need to win at any expense rather than learning to loose gracefully(it is a good life lesson) and still enjoy yourself is what gets 99% of people out there angry

]]> By: leafgreen386 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4456 leafgreen386 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:49:27 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4456 I've heard reports of people being banned for hacking in other games, as well. Namely, brawl online, as in... with friends. As I'm sure most people are aware, cheating in brawl won't really do anything for you; if you don't have the same codeset as your opponent you'll just desync. Code matches have become increasingly popular in some circles, although this recent error code has created a cause for concern for those who participate in these matches. I don't mean some small scrappy group of friends playing this, either. At this point there are probably one or two thousand people playing this game using a unified codeset. As this movement is still young, it would suck to see it get hurt because of something like this. Sure, people would still be able to play with this codeset in their homes, although online makes it far more accessible for many people who don't have anyone around them to play with. A thought I had was that they may use WiiConnect24 in order to check your wii, and that if you had it disabled, it may stop them from being able to detect the use of codes. This is pure conjecture, though, and hasn't been tested by anyone, yet (that I know of). The user in reply #14 on this article stated that his friend got banned while using a 3.4 wii while he was fine using a 3.2 wii, so it looks like version menu may also have something to do with it. I’ve heard reports of people being banned for hacking in other games, as well. Namely, brawl online, as in… with friends. As I’m sure most people are aware, cheating in brawl won’t really do anything for you; if you don’t have the same codeset as your opponent you’ll just desync. Code matches have become increasingly popular in some circles, although this recent error code has created a cause for concern for those who participate in these matches. I don’t mean some small scrappy group of friends playing this, either. At this point there are probably one or two thousand people playing this game using a unified codeset. As this movement is still young, it would suck to see it get hurt because of something like this. Sure, people would still be able to play with this codeset in their homes, although online makes it far more accessible for many people who don’t have anyone around them to play with.

A thought I had was that they may use WiiConnect24 in order to check your wii, and that if you had it disabled, it may stop them from being able to detect the use of codes. This is pure conjecture, though, and hasn’t been tested by anyone, yet (that I know of). The user in reply #14 on this article stated that his friend got banned while using a 3.4 wii while he was fine using a 3.2 wii, so it looks like version menu may also have something to do with it.

]]> By: WiiMan http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4455 WiiMan Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:22:08 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4455 It's funny how they call themselves hackers, when they are just plain cheaters. It’s funny how they call themselves hackers, when they are just plain cheaters.

]]> By: cr08 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-4454 cr08 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:56:52 +0000 http://hackmii.com/2009/03/nintendo-wfc-ban-rumors/#comment-4454 On a side note: Although knowing Nintendo, their attempts to eliminate cheating will be mostly for naught with the more determined hackers, I am pleased to see something is finally being done about it especially considering how basic the WFC service is. Up to this point, the 1st party WFC based games have all had a lot of vices that have made it more a chore to play online than anything unless you have enough active friends on your friend roster to isolate yourselves with. Brawl has had the nasty lag management sometimes resulting in the games so much as freezing completely for 15 minutes if bad enough but other times just enough constant and subtle lag to throw off the oft needed precise button commands/actions. Mario Kart of course has the known cheating tricks (Even the DS version was bad for this), and those are just two out of a number of WFC titles that are in the bin of 'could have been good, but texas sized holes ruined it for everyone' games. It's really been ages since I have even played any of the available WFC games online for these exact reasons. As stated, it feels more like a chore than anything to even have a good time online. I put hopes on that Nintendo can effectively cull the hackers/cheaters to a discernible amount for the sake of improving their reputation a bit. And maybe this will instill some smarts in them that a more elaborate online service like Xbox Live to have a little more control over these things. On a side note: Although knowing Nintendo, their attempts to eliminate cheating will be mostly for naught with the more determined hackers, I am pleased to see something is finally being done about it especially considering how basic the WFC service is.

Up to this point, the 1st party WFC based games have all had a lot of vices that have made it more a chore to play online than anything unless you have enough active friends on your friend roster to isolate yourselves with. Brawl has had the nasty lag management sometimes resulting in the games so much as freezing completely for 15 minutes if bad enough but other times just enough constant and subtle lag to throw off the oft needed precise button commands/actions. Mario Kart of course has the known cheating tricks (Even the DS version was bad for this), and those are just two out of a number of WFC titles that are in the bin of ‘could have been good, but texas sized holes ruined it for everyone’ games.

It’s really been ages since I have even played any of the available WFC games online for these exact reasons. As stated, it feels more like a chore than anything to even have a good time online.

I put hopes on that Nintendo can effectively cull the hackers/cheaters to a discernible amount for the sake of improving their reputation a bit. And maybe this will instill some smarts in them that a more elaborate online service like Xbox Live to have a little more control over these things.

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