BootMii is very different – it’s installed as early as possible. This means it minimizes its dependencies and therefore maximizes brick resistance, and also maximizes usefulness: by definition, BootMii can do more than preloader can do – because you could even boot preloader itself (or something like it) from BootMii. There’s one difference though: BootMii requires an SD card for operation (well, if you don’t have one it just falls back to a standard boot), while preloader works without one. I personally think it’s a good thing that we touch NAND as little as possible.

BootMii is also strictly Starlet-based. Starlet boots before the PPC, so this is natural (Starlet “owns” the console). You can’t do Starlet hacks from preloader – you need to install them as IOSes. However, you can do anything from the Starlet, including PPC hacks. BootMii is kind of one-hack-to-rule-them-all in that you can theoretically do almost anything from it without installing anything else, assuming you’re willing to put the effort into it (some things are harder than others). I’m really big on the goal of requiring as little changes to NAND as possible.

There’s also the differing quality standards for the two applications. BootMii would probably be out in its current state if crediar made it. We try really, _really_ hard to release things only when they’re useful and completely safe, and I have a feeling we try harder than crediar.

As for resistance to updates, preloader dies when the system menu is updated (common), while BootMii will only die if boot2 is updated (has never happened to date), and even then there’s an extra catch that we’re going to throw in – bog standard boot2 updates won’t work. Preloader is also likely to die from security improvements by Nintendo (additional hashing), which might even result in an unrecoverable brick. This is impossible for BootMii because Nintendo simply can’t update boot1, which is responsible for launching BootMii. Both of course will die as a result of a targeted attack from Nintendo, because there’s nothing we can possibly do against that.

And BootMii is dead easy to flash using a NAND writer, because it lives in a dedicated area of flash. This means you can fix any brick at all – or heck, an entirely erased NAND – by quickly flashing BootMii and, at most, also boot1, using a NAND programmer. To install preloader at a low level would require a reimplementation of the NAND FS with write functionality, which isn’t likely to happen soon.

You’re not allowed to make fun of their bad English when (A) you also make terrible spelling mistakes and (B) English is your native language.

I’ll fix it for you: “Anyone see *Gollum* in *their* head?” (Emphasis added so you can see your mistakes.)

Like Shonty, I’m also curious about what Team Twiizers thinks about Crediar’s Preloader, and how it compares to BootMii. I know that they work differently (Preloader replaces Wii Menu DOL with something else vs BootMii replacing boot2 with something else) but I’d like to hear you guys analyze it and explain why or how it is or is not as effective as BootMii.

After the copyright issue of some parts of our project, expecially with MARCAN.
we decide to:

1- Remove TWILIGH HACK from our server
2- Remove all the applications that the owners don’t authorize the distribution
3- We will remove LEGAL from the advertise of ARGON2, it will be nothing more than another modchip

We apologize about all this with HOMEBREW comunity and MARCAN.
We will meet in few days MARCAN to verify all is ok and any of his “copyright” are violated

Now we will start to develope our own applications that we will offer trought argonchannel soon.
SMS GATEWAY will be one of these, the possibility to send out SMS messagges to HANDY PHONES for free.

ARGONCHANNEL TEAM

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This was posted on Argon’s site, are this guys laughing at Team Twiizers or what?

I meant the ones that are Illegal, sure its completly legal if you ripped the IOS off a disk, but IOS16 is for “Repair-Only” Witch means its leaked or stolen. And yes your right, WAD Manager is probably legal, but mostly used for Illegal actions, so its arguable ither way.

Offtopic: I´m more interessted about your opinion about the Preloader from Crediar^^

but in all fairness, anyone that doesnt look around for the best deal (in this case the FREE twilight hack and HBC) really deserves to get there crappy software and pay for it

obviously through thousands of posts on the internet and here marcan, bushing all those guys are the real writers of the code and if need be that could be proved, but if it were me i would tell there ISP the deal and then forget the whole mess and just continue to tell people that Homebrew is free and you can get everything for free. Then just focus on the Wii again!

In other thoughts, i sorta need a NAND programmer and im not to thrilled with InFeCtuS, anyone know of someone who has made one who might be willing to share the schematics for it?

PS. First post, although been following the site for a while, Great site guys!