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	<title>Comments on: Wii homebrew for sale (Copyright? What&#8217;s that?)</title>
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		<title>By: komicturtle</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-5322</link>
		<dc:creator>komicturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we can wait till the Bad Karma rolls in. It&#039;s just biding it&#039;s time, and it&#039;ll hit when least expected ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we can wait till the Bad Karma rolls in. It&#8217;s just biding it&#8217;s time, and it&#8217;ll hit when least expected ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: komicturtle</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-5321</link>
		<dc:creator>komicturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though this article is kinda outdated, seems like their website is still up.. Has anyone done anything about it? Cause I&#039;d be willing to point these people out through emailing Nintendo, and they can investigate it (They&#039;ve done that to other parties along with Sony, Capcom, Microsoft, etc. anyways).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though this article is kinda outdated, seems like their website is still up.. Has anyone done anything about it? Cause I&#8217;d be willing to point these people out through emailing Nintendo, and they can investigate it (They&#8217;ve done that to other parties along with Sony, Capcom, Microsoft, etc. anyways).</p>
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		<title>By: ShadowKalmah</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3915</link>
		<dc:creator>ShadowKalmah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are more sites sites now. There are about 50 of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more sites sites now. There are about 50 of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocketomy</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3859</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocketomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well. This all sucks a lot but let&#039;s look at the bright side, new people are being introduced to homebrew software and our community is growing, that has to be good to at least a certain extent. 

Commercialism do does bring around new business opportunities now, does it? Whatever the reason, we still can&#039;t ignore the growing user base and, while still not justifiable, these websites are bringing new Wii users to the light of homebrew, which is ultimately the most important thing in our eyes.  

Though, I do admit, that I feel sorry for them and that they shouldn&#039;t have been reeled in that way. But I guess in this case, if just for a second, the end might justify the means. 

You guys just think about that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well. This all sucks a lot but let&#8217;s look at the bright side, new people are being introduced to homebrew software and our community is growing, that has to be good to at least a certain extent. </p>
<p>Commercialism do does bring around new business opportunities now, does it? Whatever the reason, we still can&#8217;t ignore the growing user base and, while still not justifiable, these websites are bringing new Wii users to the light of homebrew, which is ultimately the most important thing in our eyes.  </p>
<p>Though, I do admit, that I feel sorry for them and that they shouldn&#8217;t have been reeled in that way. But I guess in this case, if just for a second, the end might justify the means. </p>
<p>You guys just think about that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Red_Breast</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3826</link>
		<dc:creator>Red_Breast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guides could also make the Hackmii site a little confusing for some.
At the moment under the ads for Google is &quot;Unlock Wii&quot;. Click that and up pops a Google list of links. One of which is Unlock Wii.
I guess like most sites you need to use ads. But you can see what I&#039;m getting at yes/no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guides could also make the Hackmii site a little confusing for some.<br />
At the moment under the ads for Google is &#8220;Unlock Wii&#8221;. Click that and up pops a Google list of links. One of which is Unlock Wii.<br />
I guess like most sites you need to use ads. But you can see what I&#8217;m getting at yes/no?</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon1</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3822</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldon1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello (owner of Homebrewinstaller here)

I have directed all links to the Twilight hack and Homebrew Channel to their original source. The errors mentioned above by Marcus have been corrected, along with the referral to Team Tweezers and the GNU license at the bottom of the page. I fully re-wrote the guide to make it even more original. My disclaimer has also been updated. Hope this helps.

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello (owner of Homebrewinstaller here)</p>
<p>I have directed all links to the Twilight hack and Homebrew Channel to their original source. The errors mentioned above by Marcus have been corrected, along with the referral to Team Tweezers and the GNU license at the bottom of the page. I fully re-wrote the guide to make it even more original. My disclaimer has also been updated. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunrise</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3818</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunrise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find it somehow ironic that the majority of people  commenting and acting on the &quot;right side&quot; of copyright are the same individuals acting on the &quot;other side&quot; when bushing was &quot;in talks&quot; with Nintendo about possibly booting backups.
Think on people, act with dignity. Marcan has got it right, give a guy credit for at least trying to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find it somehow ironic that the majority of people  commenting and acting on the &#8220;right side&#8221; of copyright are the same individuals acting on the &#8220;other side&#8221; when bushing was &#8220;in talks&#8221; with Nintendo about possibly booting backups.<br />
Think on people, act with dignity. Marcan has got it right, give a guy credit for at least trying to change.</p>
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		<title>By: hanswannop</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3803</link>
		<dc:creator>hanswannop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that the homebreWare site is being updated but at the very least his FAQ page should be taken down immediately as it still directly implies that he is selling *software*.

Whoppers like
 &quot;Can I uninstall HomebreWare?&quot;
&quot;Can I access the Wii Channel while I have HomebreWare installed on my console?&quot;
&quot;Can this application brick my console?&quot;
clearly state that what is being purchased is an application. He is still breaking the law and negatively affecting the (more ingnorant in) the wii homebrew community. As it stands, I still find what he is doing discusting.
Commercial guides are fine (if pointless for this topic) but false advertising is not.

Also soully&#039;s comment was disregarded but is valid. By making a video tutorial homebreWare is stealing his graphics. As far as I know, (not a lawyer) writers of guidebooks must first ask permission before using sceenshots etc.

Guess theres bigger fish to fry now but I dont think that we really should be expected to give this guy a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that the homebreWare site is being updated but at the very least his FAQ page should be taken down immediately as it still directly implies that he is selling *software*.</p>
<p>Whoppers like<br />
 &#8220;Can I uninstall HomebreWare?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Can I access the Wii Channel while I have HomebreWare installed on my console?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Can this application brick my console?&#8221;<br />
clearly state that what is being purchased is an application. He is still breaking the law and negatively affecting the (more ingnorant in) the wii homebrew community. As it stands, I still find what he is doing discusting.<br />
Commercial guides are fine (if pointless for this topic) but false advertising is not.</p>
<p>Also soully&#8217;s comment was disregarded but is valid. By making a video tutorial homebreWare is stealing his graphics. As far as I know, (not a lawyer) writers of guidebooks must first ask permission before using sceenshots etc.</p>
<p>Guess theres bigger fish to fry now but I dont think that we really should be expected to give this guy a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Kratosreven1</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>Kratosreven1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if i missed something or anything like that but was homebreware banned? because theres 2 different users with that name it seems... the one thats h0mebreware and the ones that homebreware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if i missed something or anything like that but was homebreware banned? because theres 2 different users with that name it seems&#8230; the one thats h0mebreware and the ones that homebreware.</p>
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		<title>By: kevind23</title>
		<link>http://hackmii.com/2008/12/wii-homebrew-for-sale-copyright-whats-that/comment-page-3/#comment-3794</link>
		<dc:creator>kevind23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the unethical part is not that they&#039;re selling guides, but that they&#039;re not making it clear enough that they are in fact selling mere guides. Not only do the names &quot;HomebreWare&quot; and &quot;HomebrewInstaller&quot; imply software, but their pages (yes, I know, they need to be updated) are very misleading. Furthermore, they make no clear effort to inform unsuspecting consumers that pirating ROMs and ISOs is in fact illegal.

I suppose I can&#039;t really say anything about HomebreWare since the site is currently in shambles, but I do hope that it&#039;s fixed soon because it certainly is misleading to the point of false advertisement. HomebrewInstaller, which appears to be a direct rip of HomebreWare, is in a similar position, augmented by legal issues that marcan has already mentioned.

All of these sites seem to be very assertive about not voiding the warranty of the console, yet no one but Nintendo can make claims regarding this. They also seem to think that it will magically work with all future updates, which, while hopefully true, might not be so. Finally, they&#039;ve made totally false claims about being brick-proof: &quot;If you think you &#039;bricked&#039; your console, you didn&#039;t.&quot; Quite the assertion there, especially given that their magical solution is impossible without some sort of modification.

HomebreWare, WiiUnlocker and HomebrewInstaller (among others, I&#039;m sure) have a lot of work to do in my eyes. They especially need to stop with the false advertising.

Although I&#039;d rather read free manpages than buying a book on Linux, I certainly don&#039;t see any fault in selling guides. But if a book  promised to make my computer crash-proof and hack-proof, then I would be quite... disappointed, shall I say, if they just tossed around those words to make a quick sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the unethical part is not that they&#8217;re selling guides, but that they&#8217;re not making it clear enough that they are in fact selling mere guides. Not only do the names &#8220;HomebreWare&#8221; and &#8220;HomebrewInstaller&#8221; imply software, but their pages (yes, I know, they need to be updated) are very misleading. Furthermore, they make no clear effort to inform unsuspecting consumers that pirating ROMs and ISOs is in fact illegal.</p>
<p>I suppose I can&#8217;t really say anything about HomebreWare since the site is currently in shambles, but I do hope that it&#8217;s fixed soon because it certainly is misleading to the point of false advertisement. HomebrewInstaller, which appears to be a direct rip of HomebreWare, is in a similar position, augmented by legal issues that marcan has already mentioned.</p>
<p>All of these sites seem to be very assertive about not voiding the warranty of the console, yet no one but Nintendo can make claims regarding this. They also seem to think that it will magically work with all future updates, which, while hopefully true, might not be so. Finally, they&#8217;ve made totally false claims about being brick-proof: &#8220;If you think you &#8216;bricked&#8217; your console, you didn&#8217;t.&#8221; Quite the assertion there, especially given that their magical solution is impossible without some sort of modification.</p>
<p>HomebreWare, WiiUnlocker and HomebrewInstaller (among others, I&#8217;m sure) have a lot of work to do in my eyes. They especially need to stop with the false advertising.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;d rather read free manpages than buying a book on Linux, I certainly don&#8217;t see any fault in selling guides. But if a book  promised to make my computer crash-proof and hack-proof, then I would be quite&#8230; disappointed, shall I say, if they just tossed around those words to make a quick sale.</p>
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